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July 6, 2008 at 11:52 am #3547
<Here is update on the Motiva Pt Arthur Refinery (& Coker) Expansion. The 25% labor effort so far has been on foundation & goal is still June 2010 project completion.One minor modification – the coker drum mentioned in article is likely the coker fractionator & 6 reactors are likely the 6 coke drums from SHI. – CER Comments>
Motiva’s massive modules
By David Ball The Port Arthur News
7/06/08 / PORT ARTHUR – Sometimes lost in the mind-boggling $7 billion being used to build the new refinery expansion for Motiva Enterprises in Port Arthur is the equally mind-boggling logistics utilized to build the project. Logistics of such epic proportions, Cecil B. Demille would appreciate.
According to Steve Katzman of Bechtel/Jacobs who is constructing the project, the plant will expand to produce an additional 325 million barrels per day of heavy sour crude for a total of 600 million barrels per day at its completion – making it the largest refinery in the U.S. Seven thousand construction workers will be on the project.
Katzman then spoke on what they call the “gee whiz” sheet:
. 2,150 pieces of tagged equipment that is 10 times larger than any other project the company has worked on
. 52,000 foundation pilings
. 280,000 cubic yards of concrete with their own concrete plant on-site
. 59,000 tons of structural steel with 53,000 of it from China
. 3,000,000 feet of pipe that translates to 570 miles
. 11,600,000 feet of wire and cable
Even more impressive are the modules being produced, some as large as 1,300. In fact, 30 percent of the job will be done in modules, some brought straight into the plant.
According to Welding Magazine’s Web site, instead of assembling all of the elements of a plant at the final operations site, the facility’s structure is reduced to smaller elements that can be assembled indoors. A module leaves the fabrication plant nearly complete, with most of its support structure, pipe, instrument stands, electrical wiring, grating, fireproofing, insulation and other components built in and ready for operation, once connection is made to the plant’s systems. Transported by truck, rail or ship to site, the modules then are assembled to other modules.
“Without the modules, we would need 12,000 to 15,000 construction workers. They are fabricated in other places,” Katzman said.
The modules will be brought in on barges later beginning later this year. These will be 310 modules, the largest in the world.
From there, a heavy haul road will be utilized to bring the equipment from the port to the plant. At first, the modules will be moved by day, and later at night in the process.
The coker drum is being built in Japan along with six large reactors and 50 columns. A supertanker is scheduled on December 15 to bring in the coker drum.
Ninety foot piles are designed to hit the sand layer underneath the layer of earth Southeast Texans know as “gumbo.” The plant is designed to withstand a 120 mph wind. Katzman said hurricanes will be no problem.
The logistics center located at the old Super K-Mart building in Groves and serves as Motiva’s logistics center. Katzman said the site is perfectly located with perfect access. He believes the location will take a lot of trucks off the road.
He added the goal of Bechtel/Jacobs is to employ as much craft in Port Arthur as they can in addition to bringing in workers. The project is scheduled to be completed by June 2010. Currently, 25 percent of the labor force has been working underground laying the foundation.
July 10, 2008 at 5:56 am #6732
the only down side of this whole project as well as many others going on in the golden triangle is many eaterys and businesses simply have had to shut down half a day or only be open 4 days out of the week due to so many people working on these projects. Its a pain in the butt to want to go to eat and the business has a sign hanging that they are closed due to no employees.
July 10, 2008 at 6:01 am #6731
Oh on another note, ive talked with a few people that were in the drawing stages engineers and such and they laugh at the claim of the output we are being told, because they were told to draw up a refinery much bigger, and they have. Many have stated that certain bottle necks were put in to allow the refinery to run the stated capacity but when needed the towers and drums are 5% to 10% bigger than they need to be for the stated capacity…….
July 12, 2008 at 11:04 am #6721
Hate burst your bubble sunshine but any design needs to have at least 10% overdesign <not to wax historically but prior 1980’s computers filled basements & had use punch cards and relied mostly on slide rules for calc’s and the overdesign was often required to be in 25-50% range to handle big swings from winter minimums to stay in tankage & summer maximums to meet demands……why lot of US refineries are able to keep up with demand even though half of them were shutdown>
And you don’t have to “put in bottlenecks” for a 10% swing – you hit some of them anyway! Using todays annual capacity creep on cokers it will chew thur that 10% in fairly short order anyway. Also most coker designs still have equipment life guarantee’s on 18-24 hr cycles but operational cycles are often as low as 16 – 10 hr cycles that has to be met on performance runs …… Coking industry should work to change that but wall you hit is that you pretty much only have about 5000 (+/- 1-2,000) cycles in drum & you can take them slow over 20-30 years at 24 hr cycles or fast in 10-15 years at lower cycles/shorter life.
So where cokers are concerned putting in this large expansion they got jipped (I dont think Motiva boys did & I dont think their Coker Tech boys would take that short cut either) if they dont have hell lot more than a 10% turn-up ratio!
July 29, 2008 at 2:49 pm #6684
A reader above mentioned some restaurants closing? I have never come across this, rather more restaurants are being built to feed the growth.
July 31, 2008 at 3:55 pm #6682
You can build new resturants all day long.. if you dont have anyone to work in them they cant open… you have once in particular right off hwy 69 a Luby’s thats only open now from tuesday to sunday, and that is adding tuesday in the last month.
Also in Nederland, Reds Barbcue is now closed after 3pm, they are always packed but if you ask why they are closed they will tell you they just cant find people.. these are just 2 places. Even Groves has shut down there Sonic Drive in due to not having enough workers. I even had a discussion just yesterday with a call center supervisor stating they had to shut down a very large call center that took calls for Tmobile Direct TV and Helio, the Helio contract was lost due to inabiltiy to find works… He was also thinking about leaving Client logic AKA SITEL, for a job doing expansion work.
Why would you want to work in the resturant service industry when you could make 15 to 25 dollars a hour working for the ongoing expainsions in the Port Arthur… Golden Triangle area, Valero, Motiva, Huntsman, Total, and Exxon Mobil,,, are all doing upgrades or expansions….
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