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  • #3196

    Lucibar Davalillo
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    could anybody provide best practices for coke drum ovh lines cleanout facilities?  if possible, provide some feedback on recommended sizing (full line size flange, 10″, etc) and best location for water/coke droppout connection (vertical or horizontal)?
     
    thanks
    Lucibar

  • #6262

    Anonymous

    Sir,
    Clean out facilities are typically full line size Blind Tees/Crosses or removable Ells. 
     
    Tees or crosses provide full access to the pipe and may facilitate and faster the cleaning process, but are also more costly. It is highly recommended in the first turn coming out of the drum, which requires frequent cleanout during normal operation. In the other hand, they also add extra turbulence in the lines, adding pressure drop, and possibly even areas where coke buildup is enhanced, which may make it necessary to clean out the lines more often, so its excessive use should avoided as possible. The pressure drop increase will have a long-term effect in the process, so every 1 psi increase reduces liquid yield. My recollection is that liquid yield is reduced about 0.15% per 1 psi increase; although it looks a small number, it becomes a significant loss opportunity.
     
    Ells are cheaper and provides easy access in both directions; the rigging to handle an ell would be similar to that needed for a blind flange, but slightly more robust. The ells could have welded lifting lugs installed to make the rigging a snap. Ells provide lower pressure drop and avoid coke deposition areas. It can be considered for sections where the timeframe required to perform the cleaning will not have any effect in the normal operating cycle, because the pair of drum would have to be out of service to perform any work; like, sections of the pipe between the common valve (SP3) to the Fractionator.
     
    Jesse

  • #6257

    Lucibar Davalillo
    Participant

    Thanks
    Lucky

  • #6256

    Claus Graf
    Participant

    In the DCU I worked some years ago, we had a full size flanged opening (tee) on top of the drum. This was a 24 ” line. Between this tee and the fractionator we had smaller flanged openings (maybe 8″, not sure) at every elbow, oriented in the direction of the flow.
     
    Most of the coke buildup would occur right after exiting the drum.
     
    Regards,
     
    CG

  • #6254

    Lucibar Davalillo
    Participant

    was it an elbow or T connection? how about the drain connection?
     
    thanks
     

  • #6244

    Lucy are you talking about the drain between sp1&sp2 and sp6 & switch valve?,
    These connections are typically 2 inches, in our designs We change the connection between  valve switch  & sp6 to  3 “, with connections for cleaning or removable spool
     
    Best Regards
     

  • #6243

    Anonymous

    how often did you remove the coke and water, at every second change in direction or did you push the coke to the end at the fractionator? was the coke dropout location vertically down or horizontal and was it 10″ or full line size
     
    Is there a limit of hydroblsting not being able to be done past two changes in direction because of the equipment or it can go for more direction changes?
     

  • #6240

    Anonymous

    No. I mean, the size for drain connections to remove waste during clean-out, or you just push everything towards Fractionator.
     

  • #6235

    Lucibar Davalillo
    Participant

    I wonder if anybody have experienced bad fouling downstream of SP3 up to Fractionator inlet?
     
     

  • #6215

    Lucibar Davalillo
    Participant

    sir,
    there is not a general answer to your questions since it depends on fouling level; for design purposes my rule is that horizontal piping equivalent lenght should not belonger than 100 ft and turns should be minimized as possible; when required for stress or piping arrangement constrainsts, then long 120 degree ells should be used and cleaning connection located to the ell closest to the 100 ft; the connection size should be min 6 inches and max 10″, and located in horizontal position and tangential to bottom of the pipe.
    jesse

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